Liberal podcaster shocked by co-host's prediction that Trump will drop presidential run: 'What?!'

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Podcast host and NYU professor Scott Galloway boldly predicted that Donald Trump won't end up running for president in exchange for a plea deal during an episode of the "Pivot" podcast on Friday.

During Galloway and Kara Swisher's podcast, Swisher asked her co-host about his prediction.

"I think President Trump is not going to run for president under the auspices of a plea deal," Galloway said, before Swisher loudly exclaimed, "What?!" 

"Where is that coming from?" she continued in a clip flagged by Mediaite. "No one says that stuff."

Kara Swisher appeared shocked by podcast co-host Scott Galloway's prediction that Trump wouldn't run in 2024. (Reuters/Caitlin Ochs)

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Galloway told Swisher that former New Jersey governor and GOP presidential candidate Chris Christie had said something similar. 

"I actually think Governor Christie is going to surpass DeSantis and be the number two. But I don’t think it will matter… I don’t understand and can’t empathize with President Trump, but I know how old rich men think," Galloway said.

"He has a very nice life, and his life can be going back to golf and sycophants and having sex with porn stars, which I think is a good thing… I’m not being cynical. I would like to do more of that at some point in my life," he continued. 

Galloway added that Trump could also live under the threat of prison. 

Former President Donald Trump speaks during the Independence Day Spectacular on June 30, 2023, in Pickens, South Carolina. (Sam Wolfe for The Washington Post via Getty Images)

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"I think the laws specifically around these state secrets, I think that he has it, running for president and the momentum he has is real leverage of power and I think he's going to cash that leverage of power for a plea deal that includes no jail time," he predicted. 

He also claimed that the Department of Justice or "whoever is in charge" would likely say, "this is just bad for America" and give him a deal with no jail time. 

"If he goes to jail for one year, it's probably a death sentence. I don't think someone at this age ever recovers from being incarcerated," Galloway continued. 

Trump pleaded not guilty in April to charges brought by the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office related to alleged hush money payments to Stormy Daniels. 

Former President Donald Trump arrives at Trump Tower, April 3, 2023, in New York. (AP Photo/Yuki Iwamura)

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Trump was also indicted on 37 federal counts in June, including willful retention of national defense information, conspiracy to obstruct justice and false statements.

Swisher said her co-host's remarks were a "big prediction" and repeated that, "no one is saying this." 

"To try and cut out the noise and just say, OK, here’s a very wealthy man is 76 or 77. And here’s a political map that shows even if he’s the nominee, even if he runs for president, is most likely going to lose. And here’s someone representing the DOJ who’s gathered everybody and has the rights to negotiate on behalf of the states and the federal government and says, look, we’re going to do a plea deal. You’re going to do this X, Y, and Z, but it doesn’t involve jail time, and you’re going to leave the public stage," Galloway added.

"And that, to me, feels like a pretty good deal for everybody, because if he runs, and he loses, and these cases keep going and the DOJ has no reason to let up and the guy has some, you know, several hundred very angry people funded to the gills and media going after him constantly are like, ‘We would really like to see you in jail. We would really like to.’ If there’s a one in ten chance of that, that is a very big motivator," he concluded.