New Netflix docuseries reveals unsettling Ted Bundy revelations
Joe Berlinger talks to Fox News about his new Netflix docuseries on Ted Bundy.
At age 18, Carol DaRonch was nearly murdered by serial killer Ted Bundy — and she’s now reliving her horrifying ordeal with the world.
DaRonch participated in the new Netflix docuseries “Conversations with a Killer: The Ted Bundy Tapes,” which is currently available for streaming. Director Joe Berlinger told People magazine Wednesday it was crucial to hear the 62-year-old’s terrifying tale.
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The special details how journalists Stephen Michaud and Hugh Aynesworth spent a hundred hours interviewing the murderer on death row in 1980. It features never-before-heard conversations with the “Jack the Ripper of the United States” where he analyzes his own life and motives, as well as recollections from those directly connected to the case, including prosecutors, defense attorneys and detectives.
It is believed Bundy murdered at least 30 people in his lifetime.
“[DaRonch] represents that rare person who was able to get away,” said Berlinger. “I thought that was very important for people to understand the horror of who this guy is and how he is a master deceiver and manipulator. He generally was able to kill people before they even knew what was going on.”
People magazine shared Bundy approached the then-18-year-old at a mall in Murray, Utah while she was out shopping one night in November 1974. Like with his other targets, Bundy lured DaRonch to his Volkswagen. He claimed to be a police officer investigating a break-in of her own vehicle. DaRonch admitted she felt at ease when Bundy flashed his badge and agreed to join him for a ride to the police station.
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DaRonch, who is fiercely private, told People she participated in the docuseries to provide insight into the notorious serial killer. She said that the while the media has become fascinated by Bundy’s good looks and charm over the years, she had a completely different impression of him.
“I thought he was kind of creepy,” she admitted. “I thought he was a lot older than he was.”
DaRonch noted she smelled alcohol on his breath. Bundy would later say behind bars that he usually drank heavily before killing.
Once the pair were inside the Volkswagen, Bundy suggested DaRonch to put her seatbelt on as they drove about a half-mile away from the mall. She declined. Soon after, he unsuccessfully tried to handcuff both of her wrists.
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Ted Bundy's victims. (Netflix)
“He headed down a side street and then he suddenly pulled over up on the side of the curb up by an elementary school and that’s when I just started freaking out: ‘What are we doing?’” DaRonch recalled in the documentary. “And he grabbed my arm and he got one handcuff on one wrist and he didn’t get the other one on and the one was just dangling. I had never been so frightened in my entire life.”
“I thought, ‘My God, my parents are never going to know what happened to me,’” she admitted.
People shared that despite Bundy carrying a crowbar and a gun, DaRonch was able to get out of the car. But DaRonch’s fight for her life didn’t end there.
“I was able to open the door on my side and get out, and he came out after me over the seat, and we just fought outside of the car,” DaRonch told the magazine.
By the side of the road, Bundy tried to bludgeon her into submission. The magazine shared that Wilbur and Mary Walsh approached them in a car from the opposite direction.
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DaRonch, still hysterical, leaped into the passing vehicle. Bundy’s pair of handcuffs still dangled from her wrist.
Later that same night, Bundy made 17-year-old Debra Kent his next victim.
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DaRonch said that despite previous reports claiming she was tearful in testifying against Bundy, she felt the complete opposite.
“I was totally happy to do it,” said DaRonch. “I thought that the sentence he got [for kidnapping], the one to 15 years, I thought it wasn’t enough. I thought, ‘This monster tried to murder me, and he might be out in two years.’ I thought, ‘I will go and help them get a murder conviction and have him put away.’ So I never felt that I wouldn’t testify. I thought it was really important that I do.”
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The publication noted that after being found guilty in Utah, Bundy was sent to Colorado to be tried for murdering 23-year-old Caryn Campbell. DaRonch pursued him to Aspen where by that time, Bundy was acting as his own attorney, which allowed him to cross-examine DaRonch.
“He was so arrogant,” she recalled. “I just think he thought he was going to get away with everything.”
“My relationship with him was purely to make him pay for what he had done,” she added.
Bundy was later sentenced to death after being convicted of killing two Florida State University sorority members and a 12-year-old girl. He was executed in 1989 at age 42.
DaRonch said that while she became more cautious of strangers and less trusting, her life “continued normally.” She earned a degree in business management and lives together with her partner of more than 15 years in the same part of Utah, around Salt Lake City, where she was living with her parents when Bundy first approached her.
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Ted Bundy and his girlfriend Elizabeth Kloepfer. (Netflix)
“I was able to detach myself from an event that could have ruined my life,” she said. “It may not be a reasonable solution for everyone, but it is how I have been able to move on.”
DaRonch said it was her 28-year-old son Levi who convinced her to participate in the Netflix series.
“Even reliving it now, I’m not entirely comfortable,” she said. “I enjoy my anonymity — when I have it. I also realize that it is an important story to tell, and if someone can benefit in a positive way from it, then that’s what I want.”
DaRonch insisted she loves living in Utah where she enjoys the outdoors. And since “The Ted Bundy Tapes” premiered in late January, numerous people have approached her with positive comments.
“It is still hard for me to talk about his victims and their families,” she said. “Bundy destroyed a lot of lives, and I came so close.”
In late January, Berlinger told Fox News said there was one haunting message Bundy had for the world, which is chronicled in his documentary.
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“At the end of the day, you don’t really know who that person is next to you and what they’re capable of,” he explained. “As Bundy himself says, ‘Killers don’t emerge from the shadows with long fangs and dripping with blood.’ They are your brother, your sister, the people you know and trust who could turn out the very next day to be the most demonic people ever imagined. Obviously, it’s an extreme statement, but I think there’s a lot of truth to it.
“The people who do the most evil are often the people you least expect. … I think that’s sadly an important lesson. People need to earn your trust. And even when they earn your trust they can sometimes betray it. That’s a dark message for people to wrap their heads around, but that’s what he teaches us.”